Department of Biology

Pre-Medicine Program of Study at Saint Joseph's College 

CONTENTS:
- FRESHMAN YEAR
- SOPHOMORE YEAR
- JUNIOR / SENIOR YEAR

FRESHMEN - First, look at the options in health care that our graduates have pursued after they get their degree from us.

Here is what it takes while you are here at SJC:

1. COURSES - Work VERY HARD at Introductory biology and Introductory Chemistry. Doing VERY WELL in these two courses does MANY things for your chances for getting into medical school. IF YOU STUDY HARD YOU GET:

  • A good GPA.  SJC Bio majors need to be getting above a 3.8 if they want to get into M.D. Medical School and 3.6 or higher to get into D.O. Medical School. You may think you can get lower grades now and improve later, but this is very hard to do. Dr. Brodman has found that those who average 94% or greater in the two semesters of his Biology course are getting into MD and DO schools, but those below 94% are usually needing a year or more of graduate school before they get accepted.  If your GPA is below 3.6 look to the bottom of this page to see possible options in being a doctor.
  • Good preparation for later biology and chemistry courses.  Work hard now, it pays off
  • Information that is a MAJOR part of the MCAT test you will take in your junior year.

2. ADVICE ON COURSES - When should I take which courses? To find that, click here if you are a Biology-Chemistry Major and click here if you are a Biology Major.

3. OTHER THINGS TO DO AS FRESHMEN

    A. LAB PARTICIPATION - Medical schools want to know if you can work in a team, work carefully, and are on time and dependable. So do your work in Lab and make sure that you understand how to follow procedures or how to use the data you get.

    B. ACTIVITIES  - Medical Schools, Physical Therapy Schools, Dental Schools, etc. like to see that you were able to get good grades while doing something else. They look to see if you have done things that show you are a leader, care about people and really are interested in being a doctor. Examples of activities that impress them are:

  • RESEARCH in any area - you show that you can collect and interpret data
  • LEADERSHIP - class officer, dorm senator, S.A. officer, etc. Something that shows you can work with people and are willing to take responsibility
  • TUTORING - shows that you care about people, also makes a good review of information before the MCAT
  • SPEND TIME WITH A DOCTOR OR THERAPIST - Spend time in a medical setting, care center, or with a doctor in your area of interest. This shows that you really are interested in being a doctor, dentist or therapist.  It also shows that you gave an effort to find out if this would be a good career for you.
  • VOLUNTEER work - like Habitat for Humanity, Red Cross or other groups that help those in need.
  • COMMUNITY SERVICE - Charitable groups, Environmental groups
  • ATHLETICS - ONLY if you can show it taught you teamwork, self-discipline and leadership. Just playing a sport will not impress Medical Schools unless you also got excellent grades.

*You do not have to do all of these things, but you should be doing some important work in at least one of them. Freshman year is a good time to start if you have not already.

Nintendo expertise will not impress them

4. CHARACTER - More and more medical schools are asking for a letter of reference from Student Affairs. They look to see if an applicant has had trouble with drugs, or major trouble with alcohol or the law. These would greatly hurt your chances

5. MEDICAL OPTIONS - Many of you, when you think of medicine, think of Doctors called MDs. Are you aware of how many areas there are in the medical field where you can be taking care of patients without being an MD doctor? There are Osteopaths who do most of the same things as MD doctors. Podiatrists do surgery, rehabilitation, medical care, etc. but specialize on knee, ankle and foot. This is a fine career because MANY people (e.g. infants with deformities, athletes with injuries) have problems in these areas. Chiropractors are the first choice for many people with neck and back problems. Physician Assistants do 80% of what Doctors do by assisting Doctors. Dentists make a major contribution to overall health and enjoyment of life.  Physical Therapists can return the injured to full activity and Occupational Therapists can help those with permanent disabilities to still enjoy a wide range of activities.  Dental and Physical Therapy Schools are as tough to enter as MD and DO schools.

You can get into Osteopathic schools with slightly lower GPA and MCAT than are needed for Medical MD Schools. Podiatric and Chiropractic schools are significantly easier to enter than the Osteopathic and MD Medical Schools. A Physician Assistant needs much less schooling and has more regular work hours than a Doctor but still makes a very good living.

WHAT IS THE MCAT? This is the test that all students seeking admissions into medical schools must take. It is a test that takes an entire day. Most take it in second semester of Junior year. It tests you on the information that you learned in Introductory Biology, Introductory Chemistry, Organic Chemistry and Physics. It also has a writing section to test your ability to read and to express yourself in written word. It and your GPA are the two GREATEST factors for your entrance into medical schools.  For information on the MCAT, click here.

WHAT IS THE DAT? This is the test that all students seeking admissions into dental schools must take. It is a test that takes an entire day. Most take it in second semester of Junior year. It is much like the MCAT.   It and your GPA are the two GREATEST factors for your entrance into dental schools.  For information on the DAT, click here.

·  CLASS SCHEDULE:  To plan your schedule, click here if you are a Biology-Chemistry Major and click here if you are a Biology Major.

SOPHOMORES

1. Look in the Medical School Admission Requirements book in the library.  It tells you what you need to get into any Medical School in America.  It also gives information on costs, percent of "out of state" vs "state resident" they accept and other information useful for planning your next several years.

2. COURSES - Work VERY HARD at Organic Chemistry and CVA. It helps keep up your GPA and Organic Chemistry is one of the areas tested heavily in the MCAT test. If you plan to take Physics next year, be sure that you WORK HARD AT CALCULUS, it will help a lot in Physics. Physics is tested very heavily in the MCAT test.

3. GRADES - As I said to the freshmen, SJC Bio majors need to be getting about a 3.8 or 3.9 GPA if they want to get into M.D. Medical School and 3.7 or higher to get into D.O. Medical School, Dental School or Physical Theray School. If you were a little below this last year, work hard this year to get your grades up. If your GPA is lower than 3.3 you need to start looking at the other options like Podiatrist, Chiropractor or Physician Assistant. See the "Options" and "Remedies" section further down in this letter.

4. LAB PARTICIPATION - Medical schools want to know if you can work in a team, work carefully, and are on time and dependable. So BE ON TIME, WORK CAREFULLY, DO ALL YOUR WORK. Make sure that you understand how to follow procedures or how to use the data you get.

5. ACTIVITIES - As I said to the freshmen, Medical Schools like to see that you were able to get good grades while doing something else. They look to see if you have done things that show you are a leader, care about people and really are interested in being a doctor. Examples of activities that impress them were already mentioned above in the freshman section.

DO NOT WAIT, GET INVOLVED IN SOMETHING NOW. As sophomores, you know enough to be able to tutor freshmen or be lab assistants. Working with Dr. Brodman's research projects will teach you important experimental skills. Professor Haskell works in exciting areas with important ties to Medical activity.

6. CHARACTER - More and more medical schools are asking for a letter of reference from Student Affairs. They look to see if an applicant has had trouble with drugs, or major trouble with alcohol or the law. These would greatly hurt your chances.

7. OPTIONS: By now you have at least a year's worth of College grades. Take a realistic look at how you are doing. If your GPA is above 3.8 you are on track to get into M.D. Medical School. If your GPA is below 3.8, you need to work harder or start to examine some other medical options. A GPA around 3.7 can get you into D.O. Medical School. If your GPA is below 3.6 you have a LOT of work to do if you still want to get into D.O. or M.D. Schools. If your GPA is lower than 3.4 you probably will not get into D.O. or M.D. Medical schools right out of College. You need to start looking at the other options like Podiatry, Chiropracty, Physician Assistant. If your GPA is below 3.0, it will be almost impossible for you to get into any Medical school right out of College; you need to talk to your advisor about options.

No matter what your grades, do not be afraid to examine Osteopathy, Podiatry, Chiropracty or Physician Assistant areas of Health care. These have many options for working with patients and practicing the healing arts. They can take fewer years of training, pay a NICE income, and give you more spare time to be with family or friends. Information on each can be found over the internet or in our information area in Science room 204.

8. REMEDIES

  • Ways to increase your GPA.
    1. Study time - You should be studying at least 2-3 hours EVERY day. If you are spending too much time partying, playing Nintendo, etc. then you need to do less of this. Ask yourself who is in charge of your future. If you want to be in charge of your future, take charge of your life right now.
    2. Study methods - find a method that works. If studying with friends helps make sure you study, do it; if studying alone works, find a quiet place. If you goof off too much when studying, try another method.
    3. It is much better to study every day than to wait and study just before the test. There are several problems with cramming. The first is it does not work well on test day. The second is that you quickly forget the material. This means you lose all the work you did. I found that when I switched to studying every day: 1. I did better on tests, 2. I did MUCH better on cumulative tests and national tests, 3. I did much better in later courses that built on what I had learned earlier.
  • How to RECOVER after a low grade. If you got a low B or a C in Introductory Biology, Chemistry or Physics, you need to RESTUDY the material. You will do poorly in these areas on the MCAT if you don't. You also will not do as well in later classes. There are several ways to restudy:
    1. take the course over, maybe as an evening class during the summer;
    2. get a computer software program that tutors on the subject (there are such programs on Physics, Chemistry and Biology - check our library);
    3. become a tutor or lab assistant for someone else taking the course (this is a great way to review).

·  CLASS SCHEDULE:  To plan your schedule, click here if you are a Biology-Chemistry Major and click here if you are a Biology Major.

Juniors / Seniors - Medical Options & Courses of Action

Juniors.
Check out the different careers in medicine. Examine possible schools on the internet.  In Junior year you will apply to take the MCAT or DAT if you need it for your application process.  Most of our students who do well on the MCAT recommend taking the elective Human Medical Physiology in the Junior year.  Students typically take the MCAT in April in their Junior year. This gives them time to retake it if they do not do well the first time.  For information on the MCAT, click here.  For information on the DAT, click here.

Seniors.
Apply to medical schools at the very beginning of your senior year. Applications to American MD medical schools is through AAMC. Click here for application to AAMC. Application to DO medical schools is through AACOM. Application to Podiatric, Chiropractic, and PA schools is done individually.  Application to Dental School is through ADEA at www.ADEA.org (or just click here).

AS YOU LOOK TO APPLY FOR MEDICAL SCHOOL ASK YOURSELF THESE QUESTIONS:

- 1. ARE YOUR SIGHTS SET FOR THE RIGHT LEVEL?  If your interest is in providing health care, you can do that as an MD, DO, DPM, Chiropracter or PA.  Your grades may be too low to get into one or two of these options but just right for getting into another.  Look below for typical grade levels

- 2. ARE YOU WILLING TO GO TO SCHOOL AFTER GRADUATION?  There are post graduate programs that have VERY GOOD acceptance rates into medical schools.  Look at the "Post Graduate" section below.

 

M.D. DOCTOR - MD Medical schools are the HARDEST TO GET INTO. The average Medical school will expect you to have MCAT scores of 27 or more (total) which means an average of 9 on each individual area plus a GPA of about 3.6 or more. We find that our majors who get GPAs of 3.8 or better and get MCAT totals of 25 or more have a 90% acceptance rate at their home state's MD medical schools.

D.O. DOCTOR ("Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine") - In general, D.O.s have fewer options in specialties than an MD, but if your interest is basic medicine (family doc, pediatrician, obstetrician, etc.) the D.O. is an excellent profession with all the same rights as an MD. The average Osteopathic Medical school will expect you to have MCAT total scores of 23 or more plus a GPA of about 3.5 or more (a higher GPA can compensate for a lower MCAT and vice versa). We have students who do not get into M.D. schools but do get into D.O. schools.

PODIATRIST (DPM) - Don't think poorly of this career. The Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM) can choose from among various specialties in medical and surgical care of the foot, ankle and lower leg. A Podiatrist works shorter, more regular hours than a typical D.O or M.D. A Podiatrist's starting salary is around $80,000. The American Podiatric Medical Association says podiatrists in private practice can earn up to $260,000 annually.

CHIROPRACTOR - The Chiropractor is concerned with all the health needs of his patients but concentrates mainly on the spine and nervous system, especially chronic back pain. A chiropractor works shorter, more regular hours than a D.O or M.D. The average Chiropractor salary is (rural) $100,000, (city) $200,000 or more. Dr Jim Pucka, 866-4499 in Rensselaer is willing to talk to you if you are interested.

For admission to a school for Chiropractic or Podiatric Medicine, you should have a GPA above 3.20. You may or may not need to take the MCAT. You can get into Chiropracty or Podiatry with MCAT scores averaging 7.

PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT - PA schools are increasing in number as the need for PAs increases. PA school takes about two more years after graduation from College, so you can be earning a living much more quickly than if you become a doctor. Not many of our majors go into PA, but a GPA above 3.2 should allow entry into Physician Assistant schools.

WHAT IF YOUR GRADES and or MCAT are not good enough to get into M.D. Medical School, OR you are told you are on a Medical School's "Alternates" List? There are other options.

FIRST, you can retake the MCAT. This only makes sense if you have reason to believe you will get higher scores.
SECOND, you can choose another area of medical practice. The main options are listed above.
THIRD, you can seek to enter a Master's program that will let you get higher grades, have "special" acess to a medical school and have a career if you still can not get in. This option is discussed below.

POST GRADUATE:

1. A ONE YEAR PROGRAMS – Many universities with Medical Schools have 1-2 year programs geared toward students with a BS who did not get accepted into Medical School.  They have high acceptance rate into medical schools during or after completion of their program.  If you complete the program, but still do not get into medical school, you get a Master’s Degree.  If your hoped-for school tells you that you are on a waiting list, ask if they have such a program.

2. GOING FOR A MASTER'S DEGREE -
This option is affected by where you want to attend medical school. It is usually best to go to a graduate school that is attached to a medical school. Seek a degree that will show your interest in medicine (anatomy, microbiology, physiology, etc.). Some schools have master's programs geared toward students seeking entry into medical school. At I.U.P.U.I. in Indianapolis there are two such programs. One is the Master of Medical Science and the other is Master of Science in Physiology.

Master of Medical Science: This program takes about 12 students a year but is geared mainly toward minority students.

Master of Science in Physiology: This is a good program to apply for if you are put on IU Medical Schools "Alternate list." It is hard to get into, the average MCAT score is 3 points lower than the medical school's (you will probably need at least an MCAT total of 22 or more). 75% of the students in this program get into medical school in one of the next two years. You will take many of the same courses with medical students. NOTE, If the medical school accepts you before you begin or while you are in the program, you just go to the medical school. Any courses you passed should transfer to the medical school.

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